Ed Madgeson
Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer
Satisfaction Program; ED Magedson, Founder of Rip-off Report explains how
this program works to benefit both the consumer and the Reported business
on Rip-off Report.com Tempe Arizona Internet *UPDATE EX-employee
responds ..ex employee of just brakes
Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer
Satisfaction Program
Address:
PO Box 310
Tempe Arizona 85280
U.S.A.
Phone Number:
602-518-4357
Fax:
Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer
Satisfaction Program,..A program that benefits the consumer, assures them
of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a
member business. The membership involves a commitment to Rip-off Report by
the member businesses. - No matter how many Reports are listed on
Rip-off Report about thier business; it's never too late!
Carefully developed and conservatively used for over two years, the
Corporate Advocacy Program has rapidly grown to be more successful than we
even imagined. A business that is interested in being better, who
recognizes the need to make changes, is the kind of business that this
program will help. Any business that is interested in being better, that
recognizes the need to change and commits to making those changes is the
kind of business consumers want to do business with and is the kind of
business we will accept as a Corporate Advocacy Program member.
by ED Magedson - Founder Rip-off Report
As a matter of policy, when Rip-off Report is retained by a company to
investigate independently and to publish our findings, we use every bit
of information at our disposal to determine the truthfulness of the
complaints against the company or individual.
NOTE: As a part of the Corporate Advocacy Program Rip-off Report
verifies all Reports and Rebuttals, and will expose those posted erroneously.
Our philosophy....
ALL BUSINESSES WILL GET COMPLAINTS, BUT HOW THOSE BUSINESSES HANDLE
THOSE COMPLAINTS SEPARATES GOOD BUSINESSES FROM BAD BUSINESSES.
It is never too late for any business or individual to make a complete
turnaround, making amends by making it right, even if it took a long
time to do so.
This program is called Rip-off Report Corporate Advocacy, Business
Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. A long name for a program that
does a lot for both the consumer and the Reported business alike.
This program requires the Member Business to agree to satisfy all
complaints past, present and in the future, even when those complaints that
come to us by e-mail .
The Member Business must also state improvements they are willing to
make to their business that benefit the customer to avoid the reported
problems from happening again in the future.
Rip-off Report has and always will be working hard for you, the
consumer, so you can feel confident about what to look for when dealing with a
business. Remember, just because a company is reported on Rip-off
Report does not mean you should not do business with them. Use Rip-off
Report information as a tool to your advantage, so you know what to look out
for when dealing with that company or individual.
Not all reports should be taken as complete gospel. Some people will
maliciously post complaints on the Internet and this is beyond the
control of Rip-off Report. Remember, consumers and businesses both file
frivolous lawsuits every day! Readers need to use their own judgment when
considering any complaints posted on the Internet.
ONCE A RIP-OFF REPORT IS FILED, IT WILL NEVER, EVER DISAPPEAR...
Unlike other consumer agencies, once a Rip-off Report is filed, it will
never, EVER disappear. Why? Our theory is it is better to see how a
company or individual rectified complaints in the past. So, in the future
if you see no new complaints about a company and you can see the
history of how past complaints were resolved, wouldn't you feel more
comfortable doing business with that company or individual? After all, all
businesses will get complaints. It is impossible to satisfy all of the
people all of the time.. no matter who you are.
NOTE: Around two years ago in the early stages of developing this
program, Rip-off Report did consider removing reports for one company. We
immediately realized that by doing so, we would destroy the credibility
of the Corporate Advocacy Program ourselves! We developed another method
to offset negativity for that company that still remains in place
within this program today. NO reports have ever been deliberately removed to
date. (Working with electronic mediums subject to system failures and
attacks from detractors, Rip-off Report cannot guarantee with 100%
certainty that NOTHING has ever disappeared. This site has had to be
restored from backups more than once in the past, and we can only offer our
deepest apologies if something important to you has gone missing.)
RIP-OFF REPORT DOES NOT SOLICIT THE CAP PROGRAM
Rip-off Report does NOT solicit the Corporate Advocacy Program. This
program is only for those businesses that come to Rip-off Report with a
desire to rectify the complaints and change their ways after realizing
they can do better for their customers.
Keep in mind, many businesses never did anything wrong at all or were
the victim of circumstances or some misunderstanding. Hey, thanks to Al
Gore starting the Internet ;-) ..consumers now have the edge and don't
have to wait for their 15 minutes of fame at their local TV Station or
some newspaper that could possibly misquote them anyway.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SATISFY ALL THE PEOPLE ALL OF THE TIME...
It is impossible to satisfy all the people all of the time, but
consumers can feel more secure knowing they are doing business with a member
of our Corporate Advocacy Program. If a Member Business does not live up
to their stated commitment, Rip-off Report is here to help. If a member
business does not live up to its promised commitments to their
customers in a very short period of time, that business is off the Corporate
Advocacy Program. This program has been running over 2 years as a test
and is now ready to expand further.
RIP-OFF REPORT CHOOSES TO BE A POSITIVE FORCE IN THE CONSUMER WORLD BY
ASSISTING BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO IMPROVE AND PROVIDE THE BEST CUSTOMER
SERVICE AVAILABLE
All businesses will get complaints from time to time.
All businesses will make mistakes. It's a fact of business life.
Smart and honest businesses know when to admit change is needed within
their organization and strive to make those changes. Those admissions
show and verify a businesses' commitment to make changes will earn the
respect of any consumer running across a Rip-off Report filed on a
business, producing new found business.
"No company or even government agency is perfect. That is why political
activists, and consumer advocacy groups like Rip-off Report are needed
to instigate public action for the betterment of our society. "
United States Assistant Attorney General
What was once only a theory is now a proven successful program...
The Corporate Advocacy Program resulted from businesses realizing that
they had made mistakes and were seeking a way to satisfy complaints and
make them good. Businesses began asking for Rip-off Report to become
involved and help them repair their past errors.
Corporate Advocacy Members have stated the following...
*Corporate Advocacy Program makes good business sense.
*CAP accomplishes what the Better Business Bureau BBB concept could
never do. BBB hides our mistakes and does not educate the consumer on how
we satisfied the complaint. Usually a BBB complaint is not settled for
the full amount, much less than what the consumer is owed. The BBB is
always on the side of their members, unless there is some adverse
publicity on the horizon, the BBB will give them an unsatisfactory rating.
*ED, your creation of this Program turned our business around.
*ED. I did not believe you when you said, "by doing this program, the
reports will turn a negative in to a positive and once that is done, we
will wish there were more Rip-off Reports on our business! Now I
understand what you were saying, it's true!
*The Corporate Advocacy Program helped employee morale as well as
improved our sales.
*Granted, we needed to make changes, but if it were not for Rip-off
Report Corporate Advocacy Program we would never have known what they
were.
*We might not have ever admitted there were problems unless we were
exposed like we were, we all need a little reality check one in a while.
Educating YOU, the consumer. What to look out for and what a reported
business has done or not done to improve customer satisfaction. This
goal is one of the most important reasons for the existence of Rip-off
Report. For those businesses that recognized they needed to make a change
and to improve their customer service, we developed the Corporate
Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program that will help
both the business and the consumer.
For the business, this program will turn the Rip-off Reports from a
negative into a positive and permanent advertisement. That is, IF the
business lives up to their stated commitment to customer satisfaction to
totally rectify all past and future complaints.
For the consumer, the Corporate Advocacy Program gives the confidence
they needed to do business with them. All consumers would want to do
business with someone that was honest enough to realize there might have
been some sort of a problem in the past, and now they are making things
right. Completely right and not the BBB way. We all make mistakes.
Again, all Businesses will make mistakes. How those businesses correct
their mistakes and make things right, separates good businesses from the
rotten ones.
Be sure to contact us about any business that is on the Corporate
Advocacy Program. Your questions, comments and suggestions are always
welcome and will be considered even if we don't agree with them. Please
realize Rip-off Report is charting new territory, working to make a long
overdue change for the consumer and business alike. We will make mistakes,
too. Please send us your input on how to improve this program.
BOTTOM LINE FOR BOTH THE CONSUMER AND THE REPORTED BUSINESS
Businesses enrolling in our program will address a perceived or
admitted wrong, and make it right upon verification of the complaint. All
legitimate verified complaints MUST be addressed. Bottom line. Your Bottom
line!
ED Magedson * Founder
EDitor@ripoffreport.combadbusinessbureau.com
www.ripoffreport.com
Don't let them get away with it.
Make sure they make the Rip-off Report!
We are not lawyers.
We are not a collection agency.
We are Consumer Advocates.
...the victims' advocate
We are a Worldwide Consumer Reporting News Agency
...by consumers, for consumers
Rip-off Report
Tempe, Arizona
U.S.A.
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Millionaire families and various business from around Arizona mistreat
Immigrant workers ...Violating their civil & Human Rights. Queen Creek,
Mesa Arizona *EDitors Comments *Consumer Suggestion ..get i.n.s working
*UPDATE ..EDitor's Comments: CROSSING A BORDER ILLEGALLY SEEMS PRETTY
HARMLESS TO ME. CERTAINLY NOT WORTH A FELONY.. Alexander Hamilton WAS AN
ILLEGAL ALIEN
Arizona Farm Owners & Business
Address:
Mosst Cities
Mesa, Queen Creek, Gilbert Arizona
U.S.A.
Phone Number:
Fax:
by EDitor ED Magedson
Millionaire families and various business from around Arizona mistreat
Immigrant workers..Violating their Civil & Human Rights
Famous TV talk show Host and clothing manufacture Kathy Lee Gifford
employs workers in foreign countries, more than 6,000 miles away form her
home in New York. This was an understandable situation. When these
underpaid and sweatshop like conditions were bought to her attention, she
corrected it. Her workers had a place to live and were not forced to
live out in the cold and rain in the middle of fields.. Unlike the workers
I have described below.
For over 25 years many Arizona families and local businesses have
illegally brought undocumented immigrants from Mexico to Arizona, working
them from sunrise to sundown (working their "huevos" off). The immigrants
are not able to pay for the bare necessities and end up living in
inhumane conditions.
These millionaire families and various business owners have been paying
the "Coyotes" (smugglers) to transport entire families to Arizona and
then forcing these families to repay the total cost of the smugglers'
fee ranging from $500 to $1,500 per person.
Why don't these immigrant workers leave?
We all know that life in Mexico for these migrant workers is not good.
They come here with dreams of being able to just feed their families
and the possibility of living a better life, ..like all immigrants that
came from Europe and elsewhere.
These Hispanic immigrants are all brought here being promised permanent
residency in the United States if they come and work hard, ...only to
be used, abused and exploited ... almost never getting any type of legal
status whatsoever that they were promised.
Some workers claim they are even sexually abused. Workers sometimes
never get paid at all. After they have worked for weeks, just working for
food, promissed they will be paid money, they are then threatened with
deportation if they do not continue.
more here http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=1037
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Mesa Arizona Police Department suffers with civil rights violations,
discriminatory & corrupt policies against their own officers * Rebuttal
Letters posted * Update: Lawsuit filed Federal Court *EDitors EDitortial
Mesa Arizona Police Department
Address:
Mesa Arizona
U.S.A.
Phone Number:
480-644-2211
Fax:
UPDATE 7-21-01 REBUTTAL and EDitor's letter to Arizona Republic and the
East Valley Tribune in response to the DPS investigation. (Article
below toward the end of this Rip-off Report)
UDATE:12-4-00 Lawsuit Filed by 9 officers, more to file soon.
See complaint in it's entirety below, after original Reports that were
filed.
Mesa Arizona Police discrimination policy against it's own officers
UPDATE 8-8-00: The following story now involves more than 30 officers
that have come forward, all with similar claims with even more severe
violations. Another update will follow soon.
badbusinessbureau.com has conducted over a 9 month investigation into
certain discriminatory Policies of the Mesa Police Department.
Spamhaus Terrorists and Blackmail
Spamhaus Internet terrorists.
Becoming what you oppose
Editorial by Dave Hayes
Many folks have asked me why I stopped "contributing" to the everlasting debates in NANA (news.admin.net-abuse.*). I generally respond with something along the lines of "I don't wish to become that which I oppose". Indeed, recently I've "plonked" several entities (among them the terrorists known as "spamhaus" and "spews") simply because I no longer wish to beat my head against the stone wall of ignorance.
Terrorists? Yes that's right. One definition of "terrorism" is "attacking innocents in the name of your cause". Nowhere is this more ironic and extreme than in the deeds of my old nemesi, the anti-spammer zealotry collective, some of whom are now known as spamhaus and spews. The terrorism they practice is implemented in the form of "mail blacklists".
Blacklists are not a new notion. In the 1950's, the infamous McCarthy blacklists contained names of "possible communists", which ultimately led us to a more sterile culture.
The social costs of what came to be called McCarthyism have yet to be computed. By conferring its prestige on the red hunt, the state did more than bring misery to the lives of hundreds of thousands of Communists, former Communists, fellow travelers, and unlucky liberals. It weakened American culture and it weakened itself. ---Victor Navasky, Naming Names (New York: Viking Press, 1980)Modern internet technology has created our own version(s) of social blacklists. Many anti-spam zealots have turned to this method for freeing their mailboxes from spam. Simply expressed, these organizations maintain databases which are supposed to contain the IP addresses of known spammers. They then provide these databases to various electronic mail servers, so that the servers can reject email based on what's in these databases.
The bottom line is, if the machine that sends your email is on this list, a number of mail servers will automatically reject all email from your server.
If (and only if) they restricted these blacklists to actual spammers, I doubt very seriously that I would have problem with this practice. If we could trust human beings to maintain a logical and calm viewpoint about life, I doubt that I would have a problem with these blacklists. Unfortunately we cannot trust these things in either case.
Fact: Spamhaus and spews have added innocent IP blocks to their blacklists.
The anti-spammer idealotry goes like this: "Anyone who gets service from a network friendly to spammers is supporting the spammers and therefore our enemy." (The friend of my enemy is my enemy too?)
So here's how this goes. Once a network provider is branded "a communist"...er excuse me..."a spammer", ALL of their IP ranges are blocked. Typically a network provider is providing services for smaller service providers, many of whom would never and have never engaged in spamming of any kind. No notice is really given on these blacklisting events, rather you find out when mail starts bouncing to some destination. Usually an end customer is the first to notice, and that customers is directed by the bounce to complain to...their own ISP!
In essence, the customer is tricked into presenting the terrorist anti-spam agenda to the ISP. The ISP turns around and finds out that their provider (or provider's provider) is what the anti-spam zealots want "silenced". Until that target complies with their arbitrary agenda (usually of the form "stop spamming", but this is not always true...see below), everyone else has to suffer with electronic mail blocks.
What's wrong with this? Everything.
* First and foremost, the most often heard reason anti-spammers are so rabid about anti-spam is "it makes electronic mail unusable for average people". If this is true, then how does blocking innocent email help this situation? In fact, blacklisting innocents contributes to the problem. The hypocrisy here is so thick I doubt even a knife can cut it. * The dishonor of the practice of blacklists is amazing. Many naive internet mail administrators add blacklists like spamhaus "because they work to reduce spam". Lots of these sites have no idea that they are being cut off from legitimate email because of these machinations. If their customers really knew that they were cutoff, I wonder how many would still buy service? Getting rid of spam is one thing, blocking that key business email that means $100K in sales is quite another. Lets take this one step further. Person A buys email service from ISP X who is using Spamhaus to block spam email. Person A's daughter, who's income is very low due to being a student in college, buys email service from ISP Y (because it's cheap) who uses IAP S as their connectivity. ISP Y buys network from IAP S because it's cheap. Due to real life constraints, the only contact Person A has with their daughter is email. IAP S suddenly gets put on the anti-spam master blacklist. The same day, Person A's daughter has a car accident. A roommate desperately tries to send email to Person A but it's blocked. Worse, it's blocked because these zealots have an idealogical cause which is set up to be more important than a person's life. This is the height of dishonor. * The practice is quite criminal by many definitions and with criminals on all sides: o Any ISP that is blocked is told to "comply with our demands or be blacklisted" (a.k.a. extortion). o Attacking innocents in the name of their cause (a.k.a. terrorism). o Since the control of the blacklist is out of the hands of the service provider who subscribes to it, by law you must clearly state "random people may be blocked to your email box by other people who are not under our control" before selling "email services". I've never seen this stated on any ISP ad. (a.k.a false advertising) o Blacklisting ISPs is a good way of knocking them out of business (a.k.a restraint of trade) o If spam ever goes away, these organizations will also. Thus they have a vested interest in keeping spam alive (a.k.a playing both sides of the street)Do note that the anti-spammers claim these practices are not criminal and will "reduce economic support for the 'spam friendly' ISPs". This claim is quite erroneous:
Fact: Spammer companies have far more money than most innocents.
Yep, to the tune of millions of dollars per month. SPAM is big business. Do you think that the income of one little ISP with 1000 customers is going to make any difference against the large income of a spam company? No! All that does is clear more bandwidth for the spammers to use, should the little ISP cave in and switch to another provider.
While there's no proof (that I'm aware of), it's not so far fetched to open up questions of collusion between "the providers that are anti-spam" and the "anti-spam blacklists". Certain providers, to compete, may pay the blacklist groups lots of money to keep attacking innocents, which gets them more customers in the long run as ISPs fold because they cant afford the connectivity provided by the "anti-spam supporter" providers.
I've established some things here:
1. In my opinion, blacklists are bad. 2. The anti-spammers are resorting to clearly criminal activities to further their goals: extortion, restraint-of-trade, terrorism. 3. The effect the anti-spammers are trying to have by blocking innocents only works to destroy email connectivity, the cure is worse than the disease.This brings me to my concluding point. The original complaint against spammers included accusations of being criminal. Most spammers are considered criminal. Yet look at the anti-spammers! In their undying eternal zeal to end spam, they have become just what they oppose! Criminals and email destroyers. Gee, isn't this what they call the spammers?
The aware person realizes that fighting something only makes it stronger. Indeed, when you see two people rabidly on one side or the other, it's very hard to distinguish the two. They almost appear to be the same person, willing to commit any atrocity for the sake of their ideology or economics. What more do I need to know?
So, in a roundabout way, that's why I don't participate. I've done my days of tilting at windmills. I've presented my pearls, but the swine didn't hear any of them. They've misrepresented my position countless times for their own agendas, failed to understand even the most basic of the concepts I've explained, and twisted what I've said to make me out to be something I am not. ("Spam supporter"...lol)
I have finally realized that it has less to do with the ability to understand, it's mostly that they are not willing to understand. So in that climate I should once again venture forth into that primal never-ending argumentia that is NANA?
No. I'm sorry. I have far better things to do.
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